ThanksIV
12-08 04:22 PM
Sorry to hear your situration, but don't lose hope, miracle will happen to good people.
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zoooom
07-19 07:39 PM
Done
Also..How can we let other members know that a thread like this exists...
Also..How can we let other members know that a thread like this exists...
eastindia
09-23 12:36 PM
A lawyer posted this on his website
Visa Bulletin Predictions and Updates from Charles Oppenheim
September 23rd, 2010 | Category: Articles, News
Yesterday our office attended a American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) discussion session here in Washington, DC with Charles Oppenheim. Mr. Oppenheim is the Chief of the Visa Control and Reporting Division at the U.S. Department of State. For many, he is simply known as the person responsible for the monthly and annual visa number allocations for family- and employment-based green cards. He is also the person who prepares and publishes the monthly visa bulletin which is highly anticipated every month.
We are asked on a daily basis by our clients to provide visa bulletin predictions and when a particular priority date may become current. As a result, on behalf of our clients, we appreciate the opportunity Mr. Oppenheim has afforded us to get some advance sense of the movement of the priority dates.
General Visa Number Trends
Mr. Oppenheim noted that in the employment-based context, each green card application case is larger than previously expected (because many primary beneficiaries have married and have children). As a result, and in recognition of the fact that many EB-3 India and China candidates are now eligible for and applying under the EB-2 category, Mr. Oppenheim noted that the employment-based visa numbers are expected to remain oversubscribed and to move slowly forward.
With respect to family-based cases, Mr. Oppenheim noted that the demand, especially in the FB2 category has been much lower than anticipated and as a result the FB2 category has noted significant forward movement over the past few months and that this aggressive forward movement is expected to continue. Mr. Oppenheim that the FB2A forward movement is unprecedented and provides a rare opportunity to file family-based green card applications
Visa Bulletin Predictions � Employment-Based
Mr. Oppenheim was able to provide some predictions and expectations for movement of visa numbers over the next few months. Please note that these are short-term predictions and depending on the number of applications as a result of the next few months� visa numbers, the rate of cutoff date movement may change.
EB-3 Rest of World (ROW). This category is expected to move very slightly forward or to remain unchanged in the November 2010 visa bulletin. The reason is the high number of applications waiting for a visa number in this category.
EB-3 China and EB-2 China. These two categories are expected to move slowly over the next few months � by one or two weeks at a time for the next few visa bulletins.
EB-3 India. Similarly, this category is expected to move very slowly over the next few visa bulletins � perhaps by one or two weeks at a time.
EB-2 India. This category is expected to remain unchanged or to move very slowly forward (by a week or so) in the short-term. This is mainly caused by the fact that many EB-3 India applicants (there are approximately 60,000 EB-3 India pending cases) are �porting� their priority dates into the EB-2 India category and are thus taking visa numbers.
Visa Bulletin Predictions � Family-Based
Mr. Oppenheim was also able to provide some predictions and expectations for movement of the family-based visa numbers over the next few months. Unlike the employment-based visa numbers, which are expected to advance very slowly over the next few months, the family-based visa numbers, especially in the 2A category are expected to continue to advance consistently and relatively quickly.
FB 2A. According to Mr. Oppenheim, this family-based category has shown a very low demand over the past months; accordingly, Mr. Oppenheim expects that the 2A category (spouses and children of permanent residents) will continue to move forward aggressively and by the February 2011 visa bulletin, this category may be current or close to being current.
FB 2B. Similarly, movement in the 2B category has been faster than anticipated due to low demand; accordingly faster forward movement in this category is also expected.
Conclusion
Mr. Oppenheim�s comments are extremely helpful to get a sense of the visa cutoff dates over the next few months. Although our employment-based clients may be disappointed by the slow forward movement which is expected, our family-based clients should consider preparing and filing family-based applications, especially in the FB2A and FB2B categories which are expected to note significant forward movement in the near future.
Visa Bulletin Predictions and Updates from Charles Oppenheim
September 23rd, 2010 | Category: Articles, News
Yesterday our office attended a American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) discussion session here in Washington, DC with Charles Oppenheim. Mr. Oppenheim is the Chief of the Visa Control and Reporting Division at the U.S. Department of State. For many, he is simply known as the person responsible for the monthly and annual visa number allocations for family- and employment-based green cards. He is also the person who prepares and publishes the monthly visa bulletin which is highly anticipated every month.
We are asked on a daily basis by our clients to provide visa bulletin predictions and when a particular priority date may become current. As a result, on behalf of our clients, we appreciate the opportunity Mr. Oppenheim has afforded us to get some advance sense of the movement of the priority dates.
General Visa Number Trends
Mr. Oppenheim noted that in the employment-based context, each green card application case is larger than previously expected (because many primary beneficiaries have married and have children). As a result, and in recognition of the fact that many EB-3 India and China candidates are now eligible for and applying under the EB-2 category, Mr. Oppenheim noted that the employment-based visa numbers are expected to remain oversubscribed and to move slowly forward.
With respect to family-based cases, Mr. Oppenheim noted that the demand, especially in the FB2 category has been much lower than anticipated and as a result the FB2 category has noted significant forward movement over the past few months and that this aggressive forward movement is expected to continue. Mr. Oppenheim that the FB2A forward movement is unprecedented and provides a rare opportunity to file family-based green card applications
Visa Bulletin Predictions � Employment-Based
Mr. Oppenheim was able to provide some predictions and expectations for movement of visa numbers over the next few months. Please note that these are short-term predictions and depending on the number of applications as a result of the next few months� visa numbers, the rate of cutoff date movement may change.
EB-3 Rest of World (ROW). This category is expected to move very slightly forward or to remain unchanged in the November 2010 visa bulletin. The reason is the high number of applications waiting for a visa number in this category.
EB-3 China and EB-2 China. These two categories are expected to move slowly over the next few months � by one or two weeks at a time for the next few visa bulletins.
EB-3 India. Similarly, this category is expected to move very slowly over the next few visa bulletins � perhaps by one or two weeks at a time.
EB-2 India. This category is expected to remain unchanged or to move very slowly forward (by a week or so) in the short-term. This is mainly caused by the fact that many EB-3 India applicants (there are approximately 60,000 EB-3 India pending cases) are �porting� their priority dates into the EB-2 India category and are thus taking visa numbers.
Visa Bulletin Predictions � Family-Based
Mr. Oppenheim was also able to provide some predictions and expectations for movement of the family-based visa numbers over the next few months. Unlike the employment-based visa numbers, which are expected to advance very slowly over the next few months, the family-based visa numbers, especially in the 2A category are expected to continue to advance consistently and relatively quickly.
FB 2A. According to Mr. Oppenheim, this family-based category has shown a very low demand over the past months; accordingly, Mr. Oppenheim expects that the 2A category (spouses and children of permanent residents) will continue to move forward aggressively and by the February 2011 visa bulletin, this category may be current or close to being current.
FB 2B. Similarly, movement in the 2B category has been faster than anticipated due to low demand; accordingly faster forward movement in this category is also expected.
Conclusion
Mr. Oppenheim�s comments are extremely helpful to get a sense of the visa cutoff dates over the next few months. Although our employment-based clients may be disappointed by the slow forward movement which is expected, our family-based clients should consider preparing and filing family-based applications, especially in the FB2A and FB2B categories which are expected to note significant forward movement in the near future.
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tamil12
09-23 05:54 PM
"EB-2 India. This category is expected to remain unchanged or to move very slowly forward (by a week or so) in the short-term. This is mainly caused by the fact that many EB-3 India applicants (there are approximately 60,000 EB-3 India pending cases) are �porting� their priority dates into the EB-2 India category and are thus taking visa numbers.
EB2 India is slowwly becoming EB3 as thousands are porting from EB3 to EB2. Some of them are really worthy of EB2 and some of them are fradulent.
EB2 India applicants should wake up from their celebratio of a few months leap and get ready for slow movement or retro.
Guys wake up and fight to make the porting rules veryu strong if not stop porting. The rule should be if I140 for porting is denied then the applicatnt should loose his/her initial EB3 priority date also as he /she has indicated that he/she is no longer working in the position as described in EB3 labor. This will make sure that fradulent applicants cannot port from EB3 to EB2.
P.S: I know I will get thousands of REDs. I do not care... EB2 I guys wake up.. Time is running out.. EB2 I will very quickly become same as EB3I.
Don't worry brother....I started my Perm Eb2 ....I am eligible I have 9 + years of US experience itself...EB3 Who are eligible go for Porting....No other go for us.
EB2 India is slowwly becoming EB3 as thousands are porting from EB3 to EB2. Some of them are really worthy of EB2 and some of them are fradulent.
EB2 India applicants should wake up from their celebratio of a few months leap and get ready for slow movement or retro.
Guys wake up and fight to make the porting rules veryu strong if not stop porting. The rule should be if I140 for porting is denied then the applicatnt should loose his/her initial EB3 priority date also as he /she has indicated that he/she is no longer working in the position as described in EB3 labor. This will make sure that fradulent applicants cannot port from EB3 to EB2.
P.S: I know I will get thousands of REDs. I do not care... EB2 I guys wake up.. Time is running out.. EB2 I will very quickly become same as EB3I.
Don't worry brother....I started my Perm Eb2 ....I am eligible I have 9 + years of US experience itself...EB3 Who are eligible go for Porting....No other go for us.
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abhis0
08-21 11:00 AM
I had a LUD on 7/28 and nothing after that... My I140 approved in Texas in April2006. I think we should get the receipt number here pretty soon...
Why do you have this hunch?
It seems like all the LUDs on approved I140 from Texas for July filers is pointing towards their I485 being sent to Texas too. Hence, this unimaginable prolonged delay. Can we do anything about it except sulk?
Let it run its course.
Why do you have this hunch?
It seems like all the LUDs on approved I140 from Texas for July filers is pointing towards their I485 being sent to Texas too. Hence, this unimaginable prolonged delay. Can we do anything about it except sulk?
Let it run its course.
Carlau
06-18 10:51 AM
Lawyer had given me a tracking number.
Thank you sanjeev
Thank you sanjeev
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rahulp
06-12 07:27 PM
Anybody who filed after 06/04/2007, got receipt#
I am just trying to see if NSC could go past the I-485 received on 06/01/2007. Many folks whose application was received the first day got receipt and receipt#. Is there anyone who applied later and got the receipt or receipt#.
I am just trying to see if NSC could go past the I-485 received on 06/01/2007. Many folks whose application was received the first day got receipt and receipt#. Is there anyone who applied later and got the receipt or receipt#.
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gsc999
10-08 05:39 PM
But please, just trying to beat around the bush is not going to help anyone here for that matter not just me alone. You suggestion of sending flowers seems like that is the only solution to all the problems. I would say the reversal of the July 2 visa bulletine didn't just happen because of the flowers the members sent, the law suit AILA wanted to file against USCIS was one of the major reason apart from the California's Lawmakers letter. So please don't try to cut peoples idea by trying to belittle them, if you don't agree with them it is ok, if everyone agreed on the same thing life will be so dull.
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Your post is highly misinformed and members aren't surprised by your lack of correct information, you mention in your profile that you don't want to volunteer and you didn't attend the DC rally. No wonder you are disconnected from reality about how far IV has come. It is a fact and all members know this, IV scooped the July visa reversal news.
Please stop living in the blunderland and face the reality. IV was a big reason, we never clam to be the sole reason. We work with other stakeholders. Without a grassroot effort none of the other constituents would have been effective. You mention about the AILA lawsuit "threat," well, why didn't they actually file the lawsuit? We agree that the lawmaker's letter was instrumental in the July visa fiasco reversal. We had an unprecedented San Jose rally by legal immigrants.
You need to get serious and need to contact your state chapter leader to get some more information about IV.
Stop misinforming others! It is about time IVers realized their infuence and exploit their full potential. Don't let such misinformed comments affect your efforts.
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Your post is highly misinformed and members aren't surprised by your lack of correct information, you mention in your profile that you don't want to volunteer and you didn't attend the DC rally. No wonder you are disconnected from reality about how far IV has come. It is a fact and all members know this, IV scooped the July visa reversal news.
Please stop living in the blunderland and face the reality. IV was a big reason, we never clam to be the sole reason. We work with other stakeholders. Without a grassroot effort none of the other constituents would have been effective. You mention about the AILA lawsuit "threat," well, why didn't they actually file the lawsuit? We agree that the lawmaker's letter was instrumental in the July visa fiasco reversal. We had an unprecedented San Jose rally by legal immigrants.
You need to get serious and need to contact your state chapter leader to get some more information about IV.
Stop misinforming others! It is about time IVers realized their infuence and exploit their full potential. Don't let such misinformed comments affect your efforts.
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reddymjm
06-06 05:46 PM
The applications recrived at TEXAS on 1st JUN started receiving recepit notices. One of my friends checks got cleared today. :confused: As per my analysys nebraska had a 6 day lag till Jan 1st. Lets see.
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somegchuh
05-05 05:39 PM
I think H1Bmajdoor isn't taking a depressing tone. It's more of a realization tone.
I believe that immigrationvoice core is a great, dedicated and determined group of ppl that's fighting retrogression. If they are successful they will positively touch a LOT of ppl.
Here's a little history of GC process I know...
back in the late 90's, labor processing (state+fed) varied for different regions of the country but there was retrogression(not sure how bad) so it used to take 3 years in CA and maybe 4 in some other states for the whole process. And some people who couldn't complete the process in 6 years ended up going back or went to canada. I personally know a couple of families who couldn't get it in 6 years of H1n.
Then in 2000-2001 suddenly labor started getting approved (State+fed) in a couple of months and dates also became current. Now this happened because businesses had been pushing the govt really hard stating that they are unable to get labor. These laws became effective after the market had crashed. So some people who were in safe jobs were able to take advantage but most ppl were hardly surviving. Around 2002 labor process started getting slower and slower and they established BEC's. So, labor started taking 3-5 years.
Then in 2005 they devised PERM. Now, that PERM was taking only a few months so they introduced serious retrogression. In this process some ppl who had been waiting for 4-5 years for labor to clear from BEC got slammed badly. They will be stuck for another year or two. Now that's really sad .... But if you applied in PERM in the last couple of years and will be stuck in retrogression ... well its bad but not the worst thing in life.
I don't mean to belittle anyone's wait, anxiety, pain of GC process but the process has always been painful. Only some ppl manage to get out of it unscathed.
I believe that immigrationvoice core is a great, dedicated and determined group of ppl that's fighting retrogression. If they are successful they will positively touch a LOT of ppl.
Here's a little history of GC process I know...
back in the late 90's, labor processing (state+fed) varied for different regions of the country but there was retrogression(not sure how bad) so it used to take 3 years in CA and maybe 4 in some other states for the whole process. And some people who couldn't complete the process in 6 years ended up going back or went to canada. I personally know a couple of families who couldn't get it in 6 years of H1n.
Then in 2000-2001 suddenly labor started getting approved (State+fed) in a couple of months and dates also became current. Now this happened because businesses had been pushing the govt really hard stating that they are unable to get labor. These laws became effective after the market had crashed. So some people who were in safe jobs were able to take advantage but most ppl were hardly surviving. Around 2002 labor process started getting slower and slower and they established BEC's. So, labor started taking 3-5 years.
Then in 2005 they devised PERM. Now, that PERM was taking only a few months so they introduced serious retrogression. In this process some ppl who had been waiting for 4-5 years for labor to clear from BEC got slammed badly. They will be stuck for another year or two. Now that's really sad .... But if you applied in PERM in the last couple of years and will be stuck in retrogression ... well its bad but not the worst thing in life.
I don't mean to belittle anyone's wait, anxiety, pain of GC process but the process has always been painful. Only some ppl manage to get out of it unscathed.
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Administrator2
09-23 02:42 PM
the problem is that some of us are likely to eat his lunch
It is not his lunch. We should not see all this as a zero sum game. We all ought to learn not to get dragged into meaningless Eb2 v/s Eb3 fight. It doesn't help anyone. Some of us in IV core had the opportunity to see this situation very closely and witness how it plays out in Washington. No matter who says/starts Eb2 v/s Eb3 fight, you will not get any different response from IV.
Our position and work on this situation is very clear. We are all in this together and we should all help each other out instead of pulling each other down. This is the only way to fix the problem.
It is not his lunch. We should not see all this as a zero sum game. We all ought to learn not to get dragged into meaningless Eb2 v/s Eb3 fight. It doesn't help anyone. Some of us in IV core had the opportunity to see this situation very closely and witness how it plays out in Washington. No matter who says/starts Eb2 v/s Eb3 fight, you will not get any different response from IV.
Our position and work on this situation is very clear. We are all in this together and we should all help each other out instead of pulling each other down. This is the only way to fix the problem.
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nc14
09-10 04:10 PM
psaxena, you are right on money. I am waiting to see a reply from gvenkat and TeddyKoochu.
I doubt they will respond though.
The only way out is to either go back or get together in a group and help IV to move ahead..
THATS THE ONLY , REST EVERY SUGGESTION WITHOUT THIS IS BULLSHIT.
QUOTE=TeddyKoochu;874115]I fully agree with this suggestion. This will greatly alleviate the suffering of the population who missed Jul 07 irrespective of EB2/EB3. The only way we can get the interim benefits (EAD/AP) is that the date crosses our PD's again which in the pre-adjudicated world is going to take a while. Any thoughts suggestions welcome.[/QUOTE]
I doubt they will respond though.
The only way out is to either go back or get together in a group and help IV to move ahead..
THATS THE ONLY , REST EVERY SUGGESTION WITHOUT THIS IS BULLSHIT.
QUOTE=TeddyKoochu;874115]I fully agree with this suggestion. This will greatly alleviate the suffering of the population who missed Jul 07 irrespective of EB2/EB3. The only way we can get the interim benefits (EAD/AP) is that the date crosses our PD's again which in the pre-adjudicated world is going to take a while. Any thoughts suggestions welcome.[/QUOTE]
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rameshms
05-23 08:55 AM
I have sent emails as per the clear (thanks) instructions. I have a small suggestion (correction). Instead of ending with "Thanks, .... Your Name", I suggest using "Thank You, ..... Your Name". IMHO, "Thanks" is used among friends and family and "Thank You" would be used for being more formal.
I know it is a minor detail, but I felt liking speaking what I felt.
Thank You
I know it is a minor detail, but I felt liking speaking what I felt.
Thank You
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rajmirk
05-05 10:49 AM
The second part of that post was offensive, but come-on guys - have to admit that the first part was just hilarious!!
'Can Uma Thurman help with the SKIL Bill' ... hehehehehe
'Can Uma Thurman help with the SKIL Bill' ... hehehehehe
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sunofeast_gc
07-08 08:29 PM
140K GCs were available on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 2006: categories were not current.
< 40K GCs were available on June 12 2007: all categories were current.
If there is a law to prevent acceptance of ALL AOS's on Oct 1 (when 140K GCs are available) then that law was violated on June 12 2007.
If there is no law to prevent acceptance of AOS's on June 12 (when < 40K GCs were available) then all categories should have been current on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 1 2006.
macaca, This is really good point
< 40K GCs were available on June 12 2007: all categories were current.
If there is a law to prevent acceptance of ALL AOS's on Oct 1 (when 140K GCs are available) then that law was violated on June 12 2007.
If there is no law to prevent acceptance of AOS's on June 12 (when < 40K GCs were available) then all categories should have been current on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 1 2006.
macaca, This is really good point
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logiclife
11-21 11:47 AM
Gurus,
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
Sorry to hear about this Mehul. Wish you a speedy recovery.
Please keep in mind that the US healthcare system is for-profit. That means that there are too many bureaucratic, legal and business reasons for either treating or not treating the patient. There might be cures or procedures or therapies out there, that your doctor or hospital is not interested in because its not covered by your insurance as it is labelled as "Experimental".
Insurance companies are like maggots. They love premiums but when it comes to claims, they try to swipe as many cures and procedures as possible under the rug of "Experimental treatment" so that they dont have to pay.
I would suggest that you do all you can to seek immigration advise but please consider going to India for a month and getting a second opinion from Apollo or AIIMS or such high-quality Hospitals.
I would not trust the for-profit, suck-all-blood-dry, deny-care and inhumane healthcare system of this country where the care-givers and the insurance companies are in collusion with each other to maximize profits and do whatever it takes to maximize profits even when it means that some people die and others go bankrupt even after paying insurance.
I have a unique position. couple of weeks back I was told that have fatal cancer and won't live pass 4-6 months. After recovering from initial shock I am wondering if my wife will be able to continue her american dream or she will have to head home after me.
I have filed 485 with approved 140 back in june, 2007 with PD of March, 2003
Please help.
Mehul
Sorry to hear about this Mehul. Wish you a speedy recovery.
Please keep in mind that the US healthcare system is for-profit. That means that there are too many bureaucratic, legal and business reasons for either treating or not treating the patient. There might be cures or procedures or therapies out there, that your doctor or hospital is not interested in because its not covered by your insurance as it is labelled as "Experimental".
Insurance companies are like maggots. They love premiums but when it comes to claims, they try to swipe as many cures and procedures as possible under the rug of "Experimental treatment" so that they dont have to pay.
I would suggest that you do all you can to seek immigration advise but please consider going to India for a month and getting a second opinion from Apollo or AIIMS or such high-quality Hospitals.
I would not trust the for-profit, suck-all-blood-dry, deny-care and inhumane healthcare system of this country where the care-givers and the insurance companies are in collusion with each other to maximize profits and do whatever it takes to maximize profits even when it means that some people die and others go bankrupt even after paying insurance.
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desi3933
06-28 11:37 AM
However if someone takes the company to court based on "Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986" vs hiring an H1B, how can the company legally defend itself against this law ?
on what basis?
You need to show legal ground to file the case. First, read I-9 form.
From legal point of view, Employer has no legal obligation to file H-1B for any job applicant. Infact, employer can chose not to file H-1B extension for current employee.
Why don't put your question in attorney forum?
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on what basis?
You need to show legal ground to file the case. First, read I-9 form.
From legal point of view, Employer has no legal obligation to file H-1B for any job applicant. Infact, employer can chose not to file H-1B extension for current employee.
Why don't put your question in attorney forum?
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new2gc
09-03 11:41 AM
Hi - I currently have my H1B(H4 for my wife) valid till Mar 2011 and EAD expires on 10/15/08.
Can I skip the renewal process for now and apply for EAD later?
My lawyer says it is OK to skip for now and apply for EAD/AP anytime as long as I-485 is pending.
Please advise.
Thanks,
new2gc
Can I skip the renewal process for now and apply for EAD later?
My lawyer says it is OK to skip for now and apply for EAD/AP anytime as long as I-485 is pending.
Please advise.
Thanks,
new2gc
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sunny1000
02-01 01:36 PM
Finally we have decided to go back to India for good. I filed my EB3 in May 2003. Its going to be another 4 years to get the green card. When I went to India for vacation last December, we liked it over there & the economy is booming. There are all sorts of discussion regarding the Economic Gap/Politics/Corruption/Cleanliness. But we like it over there. Finally I will have an option to do something interesting. In US I was very much dependent on my monthly pay check and afraid to take even the slightest risk. I am also scared to use the AC21(Hey, thats the way I am). I am working with the same company for last 10 years, kinda stagnant in the last 4 years. In India, there are lots of choices, either to work for a sw company or start some business on my own. I think I will take the business route.
May be I can go there, earn well, send my son to US for college, do green card through him & come retire in US!!!
Good Luck to everybody!!
wish you the very best in your future endeavor (In Tamil: ungal vazhkhai payanam inithaga amaiye engal vazhthukkal!)
May be I can go there, earn well, send my son to US for college, do green card through him & come retire in US!!!
Good Luck to everybody!!
wish you the very best in your future endeavor (In Tamil: ungal vazhkhai payanam inithaga amaiye engal vazhthukkal!)
akhilmahajan
02-26 02:00 PM
Thanks a lot everyone.
Grand Total - $1990
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE. GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Grand Total - $1990
Come on folks lets help IV, to get things done for US.
IV is I/WE. GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
doshhar
07-07 02:38 PM
I have initiated the similar discussions on Murthy. Please take a look this thread and reply to that thread.
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=1474093861&m=6341054251
We should do something and this is the right way to show our unity.
We can also gather students from different universities (as they will going to suffer the same pain as us).
http://murthyforum.atinfopop.com/4/OpenTopic?a=tpc&s=1024039761&f=1474093861&m=6341054251
We should do something and this is the right way to show our unity.
We can also gather students from different universities (as they will going to suffer the same pain as us).
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